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Sake & Hot tubs

Welcome to Sake & Hot Tubs with Fred and Lisa. Where big ideas start small, just like conversations shared over a glass of sake and a soak in the hot tub.

This isn’t just another real estate podcast. We’ve created our own incubator of inspiration. A space where guests can step away from the noise, relax, and explore their next idea, whether that’s in business, community, or personal growth.

So, pull up a chair, pour a glass, and let’s dive in. Because in this hot tub, ideas don’t just float, they take shape.

Recent Episodes

S1E22 | Divorce, Decisions, and Staying Afloat
May 27, 2026

S1E22 | Divorce, Decisions, and Staying Afloat

This week on Sake & Hot Tubs , Lisa and Fred take on a deeply personal — and incredibly important — topic: divorce. As two people who have both lived through it, they talk honestly about how difficult it can be to balance the...
S1E21 | Bar Seats and Better Conversations
May 6, 2026

S1E21 | Bar Seats and Better Conversations

This week on Sake & Hot Tubs , Lisa and Fred are back in the hot tub for a solo episode — and this one starts with a simple idea: sit at the bar. Not for the drinks (well… maybe a little), but for the conversation, connection...
S1E20 | The Fly on the Wall in Every Deal
April 22, 2026

S1E20 | The Fly on the Wall in Every Deal

This week on Sake & Hot Tubs , we’re introducing the real MVPs of real estate… the chaos coordinators . Lisa is joined by Rachel Blair (loan assistant, content queen, and our behind-the-scenes producer 👀) and Stephanie Adair ...
S1E19 | Don't be a Richard
April 8, 2026

S1E19 | Don't be a Richard

This week on Sake & Hot Tubs , Lisa and Fred sit down with Ned Payant , Chairman of the Board at American Pacific Mortgage — and a leader who keeps it real. From building relationships across every level of the business to pu...
S1E18 | From Newcomer to Community Connector
April 2, 2026

S1E18 | From Newcomer to Community Connector

This week on Sake & Hot Tubs , Lisa and Fred sit down with Jason Jennings — local Realtor, master networker, and one of the biggest champions of the community you’ll meet. Jason shares his journey of moving from Texas for his...
S1E17 | Selling Sunsets… But Make It Midwest
March 25, 2026

S1E17 | Selling Sunsets… But Make It Midwest

This week on Sake & Hot Tubs , we’re wrapping up our International Women’s Month series with a conversation that brings it all home. Lisa sits down with Traci Jennings from RE/MAX Real Estate Center to talk about real estate,...